We
are happy to present this interview with Djam Karet's Gayle
Ellett composed via e-mail April-May 2001. Our thanks to Gayle
for taking the time to do this. For more info on Djam Karet,
visit www.djamkaret.com
and check out the reviews of their albums here on the site.
Well,
to start off how about a brief history of the band? What
were your goals musically, and how did you feel your recorded
output has met your expectations? Where there any bands
or artists that particularly inspired you to form Djam Karet?
Gayle: We formed in 1984 to play
and perform only totally improvised music with no predetermined
structure or form. Just tune up and play. Our goal was to have
fun! Now, we've added more structure to our music, yet we retain
some of that improv element. We are inspired by many of the
great 70's prog bands like Pink Floyd and King Crimson, as well
as many other groups like: Allman Brothers, Jimi Hendrix, Mahavishnu
Orchestra, Yes, Gentle Giant, Gong, Goblin, Brand X, and others.
Our albums have come close to capturing what we are after, and
for the most part, we are happy with them.
You
just recently released two solo albums. What else are you involved
in when not working as Djam Karet? Are you and the other
members of the band full time musicians?
Gayle: I released 2 new CDs under
the name THE MASKIT CHAMBER. They are mostly Electronic/Prog.
Only I am a full time musician, although Mike Henderson also
plays a lot with his other group Hybrid Vigor and other players.
I write and perform music for TV and Film projects, and recently
sold some music I wrote to a music library. It was in the style
of traditional Folk music from Japan, China, Bali, Morocco,
played mostly on real traditional instruments, like Koto, Bazuki,
and Oud. Its great fun playing music in different styles, and
its challenging to learn music from other countries.
You cover many different
styles with the band. How do you guys feel you fit in
to the current "progressive rock" scene?
Gayle: I don't really know how we
fit in to the Prog scene. Our musical style is a bit broad,
sometimes a bit Electronic, other times very Fusiony. We sort
of picked up the ball where the 70's prog groups dropped it,
adding newer styles and techniques to the traditional Prog/Art
Rock concept. In our group we are very free to play what we
want, regardless of its style or commercial considerations.
You have some upcoming
live dates with NEARfest 2001 and the post NF show in NYC.
What kind of a reception do you usually receive live, and how
do you feel your music translates into that environment? How
often do you play live?
Gayle: Usually when we play live,
women shower the stage with their underwear, and backstage we
have big parties with lots of naked women. Actually, I lied.
Our typical fan is a computer programmer guy or science teacher
about 30 years old, pot bellied and good natured. Most of our
fans seem to be brainy people. I think our shows accurately
reflect our sound, except we can't do overdubs and layering
with the keyboards, so live we're a little
edgier. We rarely play live, maybe a few gigs every few years
usually to promote a new CD.
Speaking
of NEARfest, what is your reaction to an event like this which
sells out 1000 seats in a matter of hours? Most progressive
bands have a hard time securing gigs. Do you think that the
large-scale festivals like this are the best way of showcasing
live progressive music?
Gayle: NEARfest is run in a professional
manner by people who know what they're doing (THANK GOD!!).
So we are very happy to be apart of it. It is a great way for
people to see many great groups in one weekend, and it draws
fans from around the USA and around the world as well. I think
NEARfest has been successful, while others have failed, because
they haven't gotten too big or over estimated the interest in
this type of music. Usually these shows are run by people who
love prog so much they figure EVERYONE ELSE loves it too, which
they don't. Only a small fraction of people in the USA are into
it, so you have to be realistic and organized which the NEARfest
guys are.
Due to the variety
of styles the band covers, you must draw upon many different
influences. What are they? Specifically, what influences, if
any are drawn from progressive rock? What are some of your favorite
albums?
Gayle: We like long winded jamming
type tunes and textural music, styles that groups like Pink
Floyd and Yes are famous for. We like the prog idea of having
the instruments, even the bass and drums, up front with a focus
on performing complex fiery music. Chuck owns a record store,
so we listen to a very wide range of music from: 70's prog,
fusion, ethnic world music, heavy metal, blues. The list goes
on and on. Too many favorite albums to list.
How do you go about
putting together songs? Do writers bring ideas to the group
rehearsal in complete form, or is the majority of the music
composed from the jam style illustrated on Still No Commercial
Potential?
Gayle: Basically I write all the
music, the other guys are total losers!! Just kiddin'!! Actually,
its like you said above. Someone will bring in a song fragment/a
skeleton of a tune/a chord progression, and we'll all add to
and re-arrange it. And other times ideas will come about from
our taped jams that we do every rehearsal. We jam about 45 minutes
each time we get together, to warm up our fingers and minds.
These jams often contain bits that are later worked up by the
group into complete tunes. Its very democratic and a fun way
to work. Mostly, everyone contributes about equally to the compositional
process, as well as recording and production.
New
Dark Age will be the 11th album you've recorded with this
lineup of the band. How do you think the group has progressed
over the years? In retrospect, which albums do you see as your
most successful?
Gayle: New Dark Age, and
its companion release Ascension, will be our most successful
albums so far along with The Devouring and Reflections
From The Firepool. These 4 albums I think are our best.
Over the years we've gotten a little more structured, and we've
tried to improve the arrangements so they don't wander around
too much. I think now we're a little more focused, and we've
gotten better at recording/producing albums. Recently, we've
upgraded our personal recording studio to a fully digital automated
system that we used for Ascension and New Dark Age.
Where do you see
progressive rock heading? There has been a recent resurgence
thanks to bands like yourselves as well as festivals such as
NEARfest, but do you think this momentum is sustainable?
Do you think it's a little retrogressive for a lot bands to
be retreading areas that were already explored in the 70's,
or is that what "progressive rock" has become today?
Gayle: I think this type of music
will never be popular in the USA. Here it is Pop or you're a
flop. Its Pop or nothing. Even big jazz masters are unknown
here. In Europe it's a little different. They have a wider musical
interest, they embrace more styles. Modern music right now,
I mean MTV and all that, does contain a huge amount of retreading
past styles of music. There is very little new music out these
days. There are groups like ours that try to move forward with
Prog/Art Rock, and then there are groups that try to re-create
the exact sound and style of 70's Prog. I think there is room
for both styles. We certainly love Anglagard and Anekdoten.
Finally,
what's on the horizon for Djam Karet? With the upcoming release
of the new album and EP, how long do you think it will be before
we see another album?
Gayle: The "EP" in now a full length
album, 46 minutes long, called Ascension (our 12th release
so far, a Limited Edition release of 750 copies pressed only),
and is sort of a Volume 2 to our other new CD New Dark Age.
Both were recorded at the same time. Ascension is released
by Djam Karet ourselves, and Cuneiform Records is releasing
New Dark Age. It will probably be about a year or two
before we release another CD. We'll probably change directions
for the next CD. There are so many fun music styles we'd like
to explore. We'll see. Our main goal is to have fun, and I hope
that shows through in our music. Thanks for the chance to let
me talk about our group!! We appreciate it!
- Mike Prete [April - May 2001]